Abinadi and Boyd K. Packer
10/6/2010 3:35:07 PM
Mosiah 13:4 — But I must fulfil the commandments wherewith God has commanded me; and because I have told you the truth ye are angry with me. And again, because I have spoken the word of God ye have judged me that I am mad.
This morning I did things a little backwards. Usually scripture study is first on my list. This morning, I checked my email and my facebook first. What I saw on fb made me sad. I don't live in Utah, although I am from Utah. From what I was reading from the posts from family that live in Utah, there has been quite an attack on Elder Packer's talk and especially his comments regarding ssa. I was reading posts from both sides of the controversy because I have a very vocal niece who has chosen that lifestyle. Her brother was being very kind and Christ-like in his comments to her while still supporting what was said in the talk. There were several comments about love and acceptance and using Christ as an example to justify what was being supported. Everything was so twisted.

I went to my scriptures with a heavy heart. My reading took me to Abinadi's chat with King Noah and his people. I started reading in Mosiah 11 and read through those scriptures with Elder Packer's words and the subsequent fallout on my mind. I was amazed at the similarities that I found! King Noah's people thought they were doing just fine and said they believed and taught the Law of Moses. They asked Noah what great evil he had done. It was just like those posts I read. Then I thought about the judgments that were being passed on Elder Packer when I read the scripture posted above.

The Book of Mormon was written for our time. There are so many different evils in our world that we are trying to overcome. I didn't expect to find Elder Packer in Mosiah, but I did this morning.


Good reference    
"I too, read some friends fb postings against Elder Packer's talk. It seems that the truth is hard to take, and their justifications have caught up with them. I feel so thankful that I have the 12 steps to turn to. Step one being Honesty. I can conduct self-checks along the way to see how aligned I a with Gospel principals. Grateful for recovery and the process I have been through. I have always loved Mosiah, such great teachings in that Book."
posted at 17:02:27 on October 6, 2010 by BTTB
this isn't the first time.    
"Elder Packer's comments are seldom popular. He was a close friend and colleague of Elder Bruce R. McConkie. (did I spell that right?) They were always drawing fire from the pseudo intellectuals and Monday Morning Quarterback Scriptorians. The Lord's Plan of Happiness is what it is and all the hype and fluff about SSA doesn't change that. My own daughter has chosen this lifestyle. I love her to death but she knows where I stand and I can talk with her about it. It is not taboo with us. Same thing with my work associates. We are comfortable with each others company. But what is it with these LDS SSA people.

Having read Dr. Jeffery Satinover's landmark book "Homosexuality and the Politics of Truth" I can HONESTLY say that SSA is nothing more or less then SA, especially with men. It is a self destructive lifestyle just as any other addiction is. Elder Packer is a Special Witness of Jesus Christ, a prophet, seer and revelator. In this case, he is as bold as the Book of Mormon Prophet Abinadi.

The Church has been reaching out to the homosexual for many years not. They have a support group called Evergreen. />
Thank You Seeinglight."
Oh my amazing stuff    
"I missed that talk and the entire session but holy moly that was something special. I cannot understand why the big forum discussions about SSA. Pres Packer was talking about the sanctity of marriage. Bunch of morons I mean mormons.

Seriously I believe that any struggling addict with a p or m addiction will find all the spiritual guidance they need to take up the fight and win. I must sound like an evangelical preacher but wow that was so amazing. I can relate to a great deal he was saying.

It never came across my mind that it was priesthood power erasing the habit/addiction. I really am so very greatful for the priesthood I hold. Abinadi rules and I agree we have heared a seriously amazing sermon. Glad I could hear it. Glad I have the gospel. So blessed.
Thanks for sharing STL."
posted at 21:34:35 on October 6, 2010 by ruggaexpat
Oh shoot take the moron comment back!    
"I see there are some families with loved ones who suffer from this addiction so I take that back. I do believe the people claiming he was discriminatory in his talk are nothing short of idiots.

My bad."
posted at 21:37:24 on October 6, 2010 by ruggaexpat
Dallin H. Oaks,    
"I was amazed at how Elder Oaks talk in the Morning Session further refined and defined processes for communication and healing. His talk gave further insight into Elder Packer's talk. Separating our individual personal responsibilities and explaining how to use the Priesthood with our personal struggles. I took notes using a separate columns. Personal line, Priesthood line. Awesome!!!

MIGAIL, thank you for sharing your experiences and understanding. It was very enlightening and defining."
posted at 13:54:00 on October 7, 2010 by BYOUROWNHERO

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"The Savior teaches that we will have tribulation in the world, but we should "be of good cheer" because He has "overcome the world". His Atonement reaches and is powerful enough not only to pay the price for sin but also to heal every mortal affliction… He knows of our anguish, and He is there for us. Like the good Samaritan in His parable, when He finds us wounded at the wayside, He binds up our wounds and cares for us. Brothers and sisters, the healing power of His Atonement is for you, for us, for all. "

— Dallin H. Oaks

General Conference October 2006